This is the third post for my participation in a read-along of Scott Lynch's The Lies of Locke Lamora, hosted by Dark Cargo, @ohthatashley at SF Signal, My Awful Reviews, and the Little Red Reviewer. What this means is...
Read-Along posts discuss a specific portion ofThe Lies of Locke Lamora and are therefore full of spoilers! I will do a usual review post once the book is complete.
Today I'm focusing on the segment between Chapter 5 through the Interlude called "The Half Crown War". This one's a little late, thanks to a busy Saturday and the fact that I seemed to have a lot to say this week. A lot of the following is wild speculation, so all of you people who've read the book can feel free to mock me in the comments! :)
1. This section is where we finally get to sneak a peek at the magic in The Gentleman Bastards books. From what we read, what are your initial impressions of the magic Lynch is using? Is there any way that Locke and Company would be able to get around the Bondsmage's powers?
In a way I like the
magic that Lynch is using, but I dislike its lack of limits. Because the Bondsmagi are so secretive, we know
nothing about the rules of the magic system or exactly what it makes one capable of doing. I know there was that discussion of how
bondsmagic doesn’t block bruises or punches, but I think that’s dubious
information at best.
At this point, I would
say that, without outside help, Locke’s group has no way around the Bondsmage’s power. This is mostly just because they
don’t really know anything about the limitations of the Bondsmage's magic.
Locke knows a lot about how people perceive and interact with
Bondsmages, but he knows essentially nothing about their power, save that it
is considerable. However, the one
obvious way both the Capa and Locke could have gotten around the Falconer’s
powers is to hire a Bondsmage of their own. They’re both rich enough, so it’s beyond me why this never seems
to have occurred to either of them.
2. Not a question, but an area for rampant speculation: If you want to take a stab at who you think the Grey King might be, feel free to do it here.
2. Not a question, but an area for rampant speculation: If you want to take a stab at who you think the Grey King might be, feel free to do it here.
I really don’t
know. Before Nazca died, I thought
it might have been Capa Barsavi, but I don’t know if I could believe he would
kill his own daughter. I have a
few theories based on wild speculation, though.
Perhaps Nazca is the
Grey King! In that case, she’s now faked her own
death twice, though I have no idea how she would have faked her corpse. Maybe she wants to take control of her
father’s criminal underworld, but she knows she won’t be able to do so by
normal means. This is all an
elaborate plot to take her father’s place. If she knew about Locke’s activities as the Thorn of Camorr,
she may well have decided he deserved execution, thus setting him up the way
she did.
For my second wild
theory, perhaps Father Chains is the Grey King, and he didn’t really die! We don’t really know anything about his
death at this point, so maybe it was all mummery. Maybe he’s been behind the scenes all this time,
orchestrating his takeover of Camorr. Obviously he knows all about Locke’s
activities, and perhaps his ‘sewing up’ of the Gentlemen Bastards is yet
another test, in order to see if the Bastards are capable of dominating the
city.
2.5 (since 2 wasn't really a question) Anyone see the Nazca thing coming? Anyone? Do you think there are more crazy turns like this in store for the book? Would you like to speculate about them here? (yes, yes you would)
2.5 (since 2 wasn't really a question) Anyone see the Nazca thing coming? Anyone? Do you think there are more crazy turns like this in store for the book? Would you like to speculate about them here? (yes, yes you would)
I did not see that
coming at all. I mean, she had a
clear role in the story, there was going to be some drama with her and Locke… I
was completely blindsided.
Furthermore, she was the only major female character in the story, so I naively
I assumed that would lend her some immunity. At this point, I’m expecting the worst. Maybe Locke will die, and the
rest of the trilogy will be about Jean?
Seriously, I think that Locke is pretty much the only character who is
“safe” now. As for speculation, I think the Duke will be the next to go. If I'm going to guess, I'll guess big.
3. When Locke says "Nice bird, arsehole," I lose it. EVERY TIME. And not just because I have the UK version of the book and the word arsehole is funnier than asshole. Have there been any other places in the books so far where you found yourself laughing out loud, or giggling like a crazy person on the subway?
3. When Locke says "Nice bird, arsehole," I lose it. EVERY TIME. And not just because I have the UK version of the book and the word arsehole is funnier than asshole. Have there been any other places in the books so far where you found yourself laughing out loud, or giggling like a crazy person on the subway?
I laughed there,
definitely. I loved the
juxtaposition of the dry section about how important it was to show proper
respect to the Bondsmagi and Locke’s complete irreverence. I think this was done especially well,
because Locke did face many consequences for his flippant attitude. If he hadn’t been hurt and tortured for
it, the whole exchange would have just made the Bondsmage look weak. I know
there have been other things that made me laugh, but I can’t think of any
particular examples.
4. By the end of this reading section, have your opinions changed about how clever the Bastards are? Do you still feel like they're "cleverer than all the rest?" Or have they been decidedly outplayed by the Grey King and his Bondsmage?
4. By the end of this reading section, have your opinions changed about how clever the Bastards are? Do you still feel like they're "cleverer than all the rest?" Or have they been decidedly outplayed by the Grey King and his Bondsmage?
I still think they’re
“cleverer than all the rest”. They
have been clearly outplayed by the Grey King and the Bondsmage, but I don’t
think that was a result of lack of cleverness. That was a result of the Bondsmage’s raw power and willingness
to use it. I think that if Locke
and Company can learn more about the Bondsmage’s magic and its actual
limitations, they can certainly outplay the Grey King.
However, there is one
thing about the situation that confuses me. Why on Earth didn’t the Gentlemen Bastards just hire their
own Bondsmage, once they knew what they were up against? It’s not like they can’t afford
it. They have over 40,000 crowns
just lying in a pile. Capa
Barsavi, in his paranoia, should have considered this as well.
5. I imagine that you've probably read ahead, since this was a huge cliffhanger of an ending for the "present" storyline, but I'll ask this anyway: Where do you see the story going from here, now that the Grey King is thought to be dead?
Well, for one thing, I
think the last Interlude was clearly a reference to the fact that Jean is going
to save Locke before he drowns in horse piss. I’m curious as to whether the man who “tipped off” Capa Barsavi
was the Grey King, or whether it was just someone in his employ. I don’t trust the information about the
Bondsmage’s power, since it was obviously a set-up to get Locke killed. I’m not sure why he wanted to fake his
own death, though. Why build up a
reputation just to fake your death?
The only answer so far
that makes sense is that the Grey King is targeting a noble, perhaps even the
Duke. If he were targeting any of
the Right Folk, there would be no need to lull them into a false sense of
security. He clearly has all
of them outmatched. The only
benefit I can see for him in faking his own death would be to keep the rich and
powerful (such as Duke Nicovante) from taking him seriously and hiring an army
of Bondsmagi.
6. What do you think of the characters Scott Lynch has given us so far? Are they believable? Real? Fleshed out? If not, what are they lacking?
I like the characters
quite a bit so far. I appreciate
the back-development he’s giving us for various characters (even poor dead
Tesso!) through the interludes.
They seem, at least to me, real and fleshed out.
7. Now that you've seen how clever Chains is about his "apprenticeships," why do you think he's doing all of this? Does he have an endgame in sight? Is there a goal he wants them to achieve, or is it something more emotional like revenge?
I still don't know if
I believe he had any goal at all.
Based on the fact that you questioners keep bringing it up, though, I’m
guessing he did J. Maybe his endgame was taking
over Camorr entirely, from both the Capa and the Duke?

